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yea, you’re pretty sleepy, and we don’t know why

aka idiopathic hypersomnia

Idiopathic hypersomnia (IH) is a neurological sleep disorder that can affect many aspects of a person’s life. Symptoms often begin between adolescence and young adulthood and develop over weeks to months. People with IH have a hard time staying awake and alert during the day (chronic excessive daytime sleepiness). They may fall asleep unintentionally or at inappropriate times, interfering with daily functioning. They may also have difficulty waking up from nighttime sleep or daytime naps. Sleeping longer at night does not appear to improve daytime sleepiness. The cause of IH is not known. Some people with IH have other family members with a sleep disorder such as IH or narcolepsy.

sometimes i think it’s made up, but then other times i remember how, even if it’s made up or not that severe, my sleepiness does impact many parts of my life. and life is short, why not happier if i can?

  • going to cafe by myself: good for waking up, but it’s awkward if I fall asleep there, so can’t go
  • going to student center (or library): good to get out of house (not just sleep for half a day or more), but at e.g. the Harvard student center, they’ll actually have security come around and wake you up if you fall asleep. needless to day it’s very unpleasant to come out of a dead sleep to a security person waking you up
    • i have gotten into a surprising amount of situations due to napping in public places. generally not an issue in some of the out-of-the-way parks in cambridge/somerville. generally is an issue in downtown boston. also depends on if you’re sitting up with a laptop in your nap, vs. fully laid out head on a bookbag jacket pulled up over your head
    • one time i decided that napping on the stairs along mass ave was needed, woke up to concerned strangers
  • a labmate once commented that they think it’s really rude if someone goes to a lecture and falls asleep, and you should not go in that case. i didn’t say that, if i needed to guarantee i wouldn’t fall asleep, in my case i’d never go to any lectures. but it’s important to go still to stay in the loop…
  • one time i fell asleep while sitting across from a professor waiting a few minutes for my turn to speak…
  • i’ve definitely gotten sleepy or overloaded to the point of all-consuming desire to find the nearest spot to fall asleep on, e.g. bench on the side of the street. like when you’re really hungry and it’s hard to think of anything else
  • i’ve really avoided 9-5 jobs, i just remember staring uselessly at my screen scrolling mindlessly for an hour because i couldn’t fully sleep and couldn’t fully not sleep
  • which is why i tend to want to work close to home

with my other medical issues stabilized i understood that my sleepiness definitely wasn’t part of e.g. depression, but just inherent to me. so eventually i went to get a sleep study, and got a diagnosis of idiopathic hypersomnia.

the sleep dr. treated this as a 5-minute appointment situation, and didn’t particularly care how i was treated / left it up to me, so i left feeling discouraged and that maybe i was making it all up anyway. so it went for several years until finally, i made an international trip that was supposed to be a “workcation”. instead i just slept 13 hrs a day long after i should have been un-jet lagged, despite being in a foreign country by myself which should have been exciting (admitted i had a severely sprained ankle and had been too scared of medical fees / didn’t get traveler’s insurance to go to a clinic / had never sprained anything so didn’t know to get a brace, i just got compression socks and a cane… and hopped around). combined with the falling asleep sitting up at a table, i really decided to handle this once and for all

anyway, medication has helped, but then (do to recent supply chain issues) i briefly came off of medication, and wow. how did i used to live like this? lol

it’s not so much the 1-3 hr long naps (despite sleeping 8-9hrs), but the randomness of them. and constantly devoting brainpower / feeling like i’m desperately running in circles — can i get more exercise? go out to a cafe? eat less carbs? scheduling meetings gets really stressful — what if i don’t wake up? should i try afternoon meetings? first thing in the morning?

the main thing of meds is I can reliably be awake from 9-12, and can thus have a semi-regular schedule

also, having a really supportive doctor who is willing to listen to me and patiently explain potential side effects, what to watch out for, side effects, how to test dosage, experience with other patients, and take my concerns seriously. so that i feel like there is something legitimate to my issues. vs. the original person just writing a script and saying “schedule a follow-up in four months, feel free to text.” and at the same time, i read things online and know that my issues are not nearly as severe as others.

anyway, some links:

https://www.dynamed.com/condition/classification-of-sleep-disorders#IDIOPATHIC_HYPERSOMNIA

https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/8737/idiopathic-hypersomnia

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5558858/

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/291699-overview

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/excessive-sleepiness

it’s complicated diagnostically

All these disorders have in common a subjective complaint of excessive sleepiness. ICSD-3 defines this as “daily episodes of an irrepressible need to sleep or daytime lapses into sleep.” For those disorders, such as narcolepsy and idiopathic hypersomnia (IH), which require demonstration of objective sleepiness by the multiple sleep latency test (MSLT), a mean sleep latency of < 8 min on the MSLT is required. This criterion is unchanged from the ICSD-2 and represents the best compromise between sensitivity and specificity.
However, physicians must recognize that there is substantial overlap between pathologically sleepy individuals and “normal” (often sleep-deprived) persons. Therefore, in establishing a diagnosis of a central disorder of hypersomnolence, physicians must be keenly aware that sleep deprivation, especially in those with longer sleep requirements, may account for abnormal MSLT results. The use of sleep logs and actigraphy for at least 1 week prior to MSLT is strongly encouraged to rule out insufficient sleep, sleep-wake schedule disturbances, or both as potential explanations for abnormal MSLT findings. Limited data suggest that one-off subjective reports and sleep logs alone may significantly overestimate total sleep time in the days prior to MSLT. Conversely, some patients with legitimate central hypersomnolence conditions may not consistently demonstrate mean MSLT latencies of < 8 min. Clinical judgment is required in such cases. Repeat MSLT at a later date may confirm objective sleepiness.

even MSLT is suspect though

First, neither short MSL nor SOREMPs are specific. Up to 30% of the normal population may have a MSL ≤ 8 min, the current cutoff for the hypersomnolence disorders.

Second, the MSLT may not be adequately sensitive, especially for IH. The 8-min cutoff was determined for patients with narcolepsy and extended to IH for “simplicity,” without independent determination

Third, while MSLT test-retest reliability is high in patients with narcolepsy with cataplexy restudied within 3 weeks,53 in clinical practice, test-retest reliability of the MSLT in narcolepsy without cataplexy and IH is poor. More than one-half of subjects with these disorders are given a changed diagnosis on repeat testing

some more interesting thoughts: ( i will need to cite all these later )

clinical presentation includes irresistible attacks of daytime sleepiness, unwanted, unrefreshing daytime naps ≥ 1 hour long, difficulty waking up from naps, and sleep inertia (sleep drunkenness)

Long sleepers feel fully refreshed and do not experience
daytime sleepiness if they are allowed to sleep as long as they need, in contrast with
patients with IH who continue to feel sleepy regardless of prior sleep duration.
In contrast to narcolepsy, patients with idiopathic hypersomnia generally have high sleep efficiency, sleep drunkenness, and long, unrefreshing naps.

Sleepiness is typically experienced as the inability to stay awake when desired, yet the MSLT measures “sleepability,” or the ability to fall asleep on command. These two constructs, while related, are clearly not identical.

my conclusions / specifics

Total recording time was 528 minutes, from 23:53-8:32. Total sleep time was 385 minutes, with a sleep efficiency of 74%. Sleep and REM latencies were 17 and 116 minutes respectively.
There was 19% stage 1, 54% stage 2, 8% slow wave sleep and 18% REM, with 2 REM cycles.

There was moderate to severe hypersomnolence, with a mean sleep latency of 6 minutes, and no sleep onset REM in any of 4 naps. The sleep latencies were 8, 12.5, 1.5, 3 minutes respectively. The nap times were 10:05, 12:28, 2:23, 4:43

moderate to severe hypersomnolence with no objective sleep onset REM. Delayed sleep phase. The sleep latencies do not just reflect tendency to delayed sleep phase. Consistent with diagnosis of idiopathic hypersomnolence.

complicated in diagnosis, but not in treatment, so in some sense it doesn’t matter in the end to me as a patient…

public-facing, public-learning; the job search process begins; what are algorithms anyway; meche and cs mindsets

soooooooo today i had an actual coding interview (okay, it was like a snack sized one, a 10 minute one)

i’m slowly swinging around from my pre-grad school mindset, where Big-O was some random notation thing that was not relevant to real life (okay maybe i was working in a meche lab heh)

to my new friends circle ™ where Big-O notation isn’t some Abstract Greek Letters but a living breathing concept. data structures tools to solve common problems you keep running into in your life !

sure, i can solve the problems if i need to; but in a kludgy way. and darn if someone hasn’t invented the wheel already

( that’s always the case working on your own — if only you knew this additional knowledge, you would’ve solved your problem ages ago. but now i’m seeing a whole interesting class of problems and spaces that get opened up if i climbed up this ladder )

i guess in the end these concepts can be my friend and not my enemy 🙂 which means learning about them is no longer a meaningless chore / hoop to jump through, but instead something that will let me do more Terrible Projects; and in fact come up with those Terrible Project Ideas in the first place !

for instance, today i interviewed with a travel-oriented company. i really liked the people, and the problems they spoke of seemed really interesting and relatable

… i’m starting to sound like a computer science major, i’ve been corrupted … i’m not sure when it started to happen. was it really just this past year? maybe even just this past semester, after i passed quals?

I think quite possibly so! I feel so free now that I’ve passed quals…

the learning in public thing — nowadays companies always ask you for your github, and tbh my code is terrible and i know it. i’m not proud of it but y’know busy getting the research done

i think part of it is this weird really hindersome feeling of “oh people expect that i should be more than i am” so it’s hard to be so public about stuff. but whatever ! my life is mine to live.

admittedly also, i feel a lot better having actually gotten an interview instead of just emails or lack of responses lol

actually one company forced me to use ripplematch and i am finding it really interesting

it’s essentially a tinder interface: swipe left or right on company matches. then it has a whole hand-holding hinge feeling to it: you get little tutorials emailed to you about how to do this or that. i actually really appreciate the hand holding.

also, churn: my collaborator in the justice system mentioned that it used to be common to work with the same partners for 10 years — now people come in and out, and are moving about. According to a whitepaper by the same company i interviewed for — that’s about Company Innovation instead of Company Stagnation, but man. Talk about the overhead and the churn.

of course !! this is all complicated by the fact that my work is on illegal activity that’s public on the internet. so i would normally blog about all my interesting findings, but that feels a bit awkward. still … at this point i am starting to think that i should be less concerned and simply do what i naturally do: document my findings, be enthusiastic about it, be public about it, and try to build momentum instead of wallowing about indecisively doing nothing

oh

i was going to find a personal project that i could iteratively improve with algorithms, but then i realized there’s an interactive version of project euler

https://www.freecodecamp.org/learn/coding-interview-prep/project-euler/

livestreaming working on these challenges??? oh boy haha

brb there goes a hundred hours of my life

(oh, the public learning idea is here: https://www.codewars.com/post/learn-in-public-the-community-based-learning-strategy-that-improves-programming-skills)

(related link, programming project ideas: https://github.com/karan/Projects)